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‘There’s nothing wrong with negative cash flow’

By Bianca Dabu
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Smart Property Investment’s Phil Tarrant has spent roughly six years building an impressive $6.15 million-property portfolio from scratch, and one of the most important investment lessons he has learned is the importance of establishing a “property plan” and determining one’s tolerance for negative cash flow.

The portfolio, which has 12 real estate assets across Australia, has a current total debt position of $3.9 million, including all the refinancing, which gives the property investor a total equity position of $2.23 million on top of cash sitting in an offset account. With a loan-to-value ratio of 64 per cent, Phil admits that he and his team continue to struggle with cash flow.

“That's always a challenge, so we're fortunate that we've bought good properties which have delivered pretty reasonable yields,” Phil said.

“Our portfolio cost us a little bit of money before tax, and that's probably a nature of a growing portfolio. If we stopped doing what we're doing right now, in two, three years’ time, it'd probably be nice, neutral, even positively geared, but because we have the pedal down, we keep refinancing to secure our next assets.”

A lot of people will think that a 60 to 70 per cent loan-to-value ratio is a bit too risky to hold in one’s property portfolio, while some—like Phil—will want to utilize the equity and build a bigger portfolio.

According to buyer’s agent Steve Waters, both strategies can work to the advantage of the property investor, withit being “your own personal sleep-at-night factor.”

Steve explained further: “When you're beginning a portfolio … you need to, perhaps, leverage a little harder than your portfolio as it matures because capital [is a] finite resource, so you need to utilise it to keep going. Once you get to a baseline of properties, you don't have to really ride that LVR position too high, [but it still depends], of course, on how hard you want to go.”

Personally, the buyer’s agent isn’t a fan of leveraging high due to the risks it involves, including the deterioration of cash flow as rates continue to go up.

However, while many property investors work hard to maintain a neutral or positively-geared portfolio, he still believes that negative cash flow isn’t completely a bad thing to have in one’s portfolio.

For Phil’s portfolio, in particular, they have continuously tapped the equity over the years to continue being able to buy properties.

“There's a very good chance that anyone doing the same thing as you will run into a negative pre-tax cash flow position,” he said.

According to the buyer’s agent, there’s nothing wrong with this scenario as long as it doesn’t exceed the investor’s limitations in terms of carrying negative cash flow.

“[That’s why it is] one of the important things when you very first sit down and put a property plan together—[to work] out what is your tolerance for negative cash flow pre-tax,” Steve said, “It's a bit of timing and time in the market. I think you have to have them both.”

Tune in to Phil Tarrant’s portfolio update on The Smart Property Investment Show to know more about his acquisition costs, “boring” assets, risk mitigation, cash flow management and yearly income, as well as the inside scoop on a new property that could take the team’s investment strategy to the next level.

 

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Tune in to the latest episode of Property Showcase, the podcast with the inside track on the products and businesses that will help turbocharge your portfolio, maximise returns and make your overall investment experience seamless and stress-free!

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Will Magee has had ambitions to enter into the Australian property market for quite some time, but it has been more than just finances holding him back.  Having been granted permanent residency just two weeks ago, Will is wasting no time and is now in the process of signing papers and finding his first investment property.

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In this episode of the Smart Property Investment Show, Will joins host Phil Tarrant to share why he is purchasing his first property in partnership with his brother, discuss the complications that can arise from such a strategy, and unpack the ongoing plan for building a joint property portfolio with his brother.

Will will also share how they approached saving for their first property, why he is taking out the mortgage in his name exclusively, and share their savings plan for the year ahead.

If you like this episode, show your support by rating us or leaving a review on iTunes (The Smart Property Investment Show) and by following Smart Property Investment on social media: FacebookTwitter and LinkedIn.

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Median house prices in regional Victoria outperformed that of Melbourne in the June quarter, the latest REIV figures reveal. 

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Median house prices in the regions rose 4.0 per cent to $419,500 but in Melbourne they dipped by 0.6 of a percentage point to $840,000.

The result in Melbourne was due to a 0.8 of a percentage point fall in prices achieved at auction; this was despite a lift of 2.3 per cent in private sales.

Inner Melbourne suffered due to auction prices, where median prices fell by 4.9 per cent to $1,459,000 but it was middle Melbourne that was hardest hit, with a 5.4 per cent drop to $974,500.

Outer Melbourne had a good quarter with the median rising by 0.5 of a percentage point to $681,000.

Apartment prices in regional Victoria grew by 3.7 per cent to $304,500 while the metro media was up by 0.5 of a percentage point to $604,000.

REIV President Richard Simpson said that despite fewer sales, many sectors of the market were performing well.

“2017 was a bumper year and while the trendline has flattened, despite the fall in median house prices in the June quarter, median prices are still up this calendar year for both houses and units, in Melbourne and in the regions,” Mr Simpson said. 

In particular there was been strong growth in regional centres which is probably due to the first-home buyers’ concessions said Mr Simpsons.

“The first-home buyers’ concession has been a boon for regional areas. A new entrant to the property market buying a house at the regional median will pay no stamp duty, while a first home buyer of an apartment in Melbourne at the median price would pay stamp duty of nearly $25,000,” he said.

Mr Simpson said that more prospective buyers are looking towards regional Victoria which is also having an effect in Melbourne.

“Melbourne’s outer perimeter continues to grow. Small increases in the June quarter mean that the median prices for both houses and units have risen over 10.5 per cent from a year ago.

Mr Simpson said moving forward that vendors need more realistic expectations as the highs of 2017 are now over.

“Negative chatter about the future of the sector coupled with stronger lending controls by financial institutions has created some uncertainty and vendors need to be realistic with their price expectations,” Mr Simpson said.

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